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Beach's avatar
Beach
SMARTY Enquirer
16-09-2025
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Hotel California PAC issue. (No means of exporting tel number but keeping Smarty internet account?)

Good afternoon,

I have a Smarty smartphone based sim plan delivering me unlimited internet access and previously used PAC to import my vital biz phone number when I joined Smarty and, sure, I've been happy with the net and phone service, (for nearly a year), but recently decided to use the Smarty nano sim in a sim based router to get better coverage.

And, yes, I realised that the basic sim router I'd bought did not have telephony features and, therefore, the best way of addressing the issue was to export my important biz number back out of Smarty and into my other phone. (A phone and text based Asda account)

Trouble is ... nowhere on the Smarty site does it even comprehend, let alone display instructions on using a PAC method to export my important biz number, (currently residing at Smarty) without, seemingly, closing down my smarty broadband when the PAC request is processed.

I had assumed the Smarty broadband side would just go on working as long as I kept the contract and monthly payments going but I have no guarantee that such an option is available.

So ... what happens if I attempt to shift my number from Smarty via the PAC method? Will the rest of the service, (broadband), continue happily or does the PAC request cancel my Smarty broadband?

And no. Please don't suggest I just use a new number / new sim.

I need to know, catagorically, does Smarty internet still function, (presumably returning the original Smarty telephone number to the Smarty sim), if I export my number via the PAC routine or is it a case of "I can check out but I can never leave" as far as taking my originally imported biz number out of Smarty without the account shutting down?

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

A definitive answer would be fab! 🙂

  • MSF's avatar
    16-09-2025

    Beach  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.......Smarty is only intended for personal use (see very bottom of this page) and so that will not be a helpful thing to mention in any dealings.

    https://help.smarty.co.uk/en/articles/952726-how-do-i-leave-smarty This explain that once you use your PAC with another network, then your account is closed (It only stays open for up to 220 days if you do not actually use the PAC with another network). 

    The original number allocated to your sim when you activated it will have been recycled after a while (I think 6 months) and so that will not be reassigned.

    As you have already deduced, the only way to retain your mobile broadband would be to start a new account and activate a sim - this should only take a couple of hours maximum. You can then safely get a PAC for your main number if you wish.

    Perhaps I'm being thick here, but wouldn't you still need two sims - one for the router and one for the phone? This is because you cannot have two sims on one account (currently) If that's the case, then activating a seconds for use in the router and transferring your original back to the phone would be a hack - also you can start the second one as a 'nickname' sim in a group with your original one and get a discount on your Smarty plans.

    (Admittedly this all falls apart if you need to leave Smarty for some reason - but you said it was fine)

     

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  • MSF's avatar
    MSF
    SMARTY Guru
    16-09-2025

    Beach  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.......Smarty is only intended for personal use (see very bottom of this page) and so that will not be a helpful thing to mention in any dealings.

    https://help.smarty.co.uk/en/articles/952726-how-do-i-leave-smarty This explain that once you use your PAC with another network, then your account is closed (It only stays open for up to 220 days if you do not actually use the PAC with another network). 

    The original number allocated to your sim when you activated it will have been recycled after a while (I think 6 months) and so that will not be reassigned.

    As you have already deduced, the only way to retain your mobile broadband would be to start a new account and activate a sim - this should only take a couple of hours maximum. You can then safely get a PAC for your main number if you wish.

    Perhaps I'm being thick here, but wouldn't you still need two sims - one for the router and one for the phone? This is because you cannot have two sims on one account (currently) If that's the case, then activating a seconds for use in the router and transferring your original back to the phone would be a hack - also you can start the second one as a 'nickname' sim in a group with your original one and get a discount on your Smarty plans.

    (Admittedly this all falls apart if you need to leave Smarty for some reason - but you said it was fine)

     

    • Beach's avatar
      Beach
      SMARTY Enquirer
      16-09-2025

      Hi MSF,

      I'm retired and the 'important biz number' is, technically, no longer a biz number ... though still, obviously, important to me and the way I've always regarded it whereas, till now, I've used several sims over the years as pure personal numbers. (Hence the current Asda sim account).

      Thank you for the info, though. It clarifies and confirms that, no, I will not be able to just shunt the 'important# number out of Smarty which is a shame becasue, with the contract coming up to the year, it'll mean I'll have to just PAC my nuber to the Asda sim / phone and cancel or, rather, not renew my arrangement with Smarty.

      Thanks for the reply though. You've helped me clarify things.

      And you were right. Yes. I was / would have / do always required two sims to rejig my plans. I'd hoped that one would have been Smarty for carrying on my perfectly decent broadband side and one would be the Asda sim, with my precious long term number newly sited.

      Thanks again.

      Beach

      • MSF's avatar
        MSF
        SMARTY Guru
        16-09-2025

        Beach  Glad to have been of some service at least.

        "Contract coming up to the year" - not clear on that one - Smarty doesn't have any contracts as such, only monthly plans which you can renew. Do you mean a special offer which is ending? You can often find something at least as good in the new offers.