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Enough is enough - eSIM *now*
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/esims
As you can see above, not all US carriers support eSIMs
AFAIK, Three did a trial on eSIMs, but do not currently offer it.
If you want eSIM that bad, don’t use an MVNO. The only UK MVNO’s that currently support eSIM are Sky Mobile and Voxi.
> As you can see above, not all US carriers support eSIMs
No. No I *don't* see that. Given, that website cited is a *third party* site, with *outdated information*. From a quick read of the opening paragraph it's clear the person who wrote that is *clueless*.
Again - here's the list of US carriers from *APPLE* that *fully support eSIM*. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209096
If you haven't worked it out already, this is a list of *every single US carrier operating in the continental United States*.
AT&T
Boost Mobile
Caroline West Wireless
Cellcom
Credo Mobile
Cricket
C Spire
FirstNet
H2O Wireless
Nex-Tech Wireless
PureTalk
Red Pocket
Spectrum Mobile
Straight Talk
Strata Networks
T-Mobile USA
Tracfone
UScellular
Verizon Wireless
Xfinity Mobile
..from that list of carriers that *universally support eSIM*, which US carrier is missing? Please educate me.
> If you want eSIM that bad, don’t use an MVNO.
Smarty aren't an MVNO, FYI. If you haven't worked it out already, I'm pretty well informed on US & UK carrier markets. Also, I am not a UK resident. I have *no need* for a UK postpaid service. In addition to UK carriers being *awful* - come to the US and use any of the big 3, they're leaps and bounds ahead in terms of spectrum, small cell deployments, c-band, mid-band and mmWave (non existent in the UK) - their support for eSIM is *dire*. Period.
> The only UK MVNO’s that currently support eSIM are Sky Mobile and Voxi
*eyeroll* *sigh*. Voxi are a) not an MVNO & b) do not support eSIM.
> AFAIK, Three did a trial on eSIMs, but do not currently offer it.
Three has supported eSIM on postpaid plans for months now!
Do as you wish, be argumentative, whatever, if it makes you feel better !
Voxi is most definitely an MVNO
Whatever, you do you, but it won’t suddenly magic into life eSIMs for Smarty customers !
If you want eSIM, then obviously, at the current time, you need to choose another mobile company !
Oh and if you can be bothered, look at Whistleout on YouTube. They know the US cellphone market, and not all US carriers offer eSIM. Even if all US carriers did offer eSIM, what good is that to you in the UK ?! Maybe you should move to the USA if you, in the UK, think the use of eSIM’s in the USA have any bearing on the use of eSIM’s in the UK and elsewhere.
If you work in telecoms you know that traditionally the US is far far behind the UK in telecoms adoption, but not in eSIMs preincipally thanks to apple.
Trying to argue that we are about as bad as the USA (which isnt accurate by the way) re eSIMs just diminishes your credibility
> Voxi is most definitely an MVNO
Voxi & Smarty are 'experimental' brands of Vodafone and 3 UK respectively. They're the equivalent of Cricket Wireless or Visible here. A carrier can't be an 'MVNO' when they are *literally the carrier*.
> Whatever, you do you, but it won’t suddenly magic into life eSIMs for Smarty customers !
I'm not asking for help. I'm better informed than every single person that comments on this forum. I'm now publicly vocalising for others considering Smarty that 3 not supporting eSIM for prepaid is now wildly unacceptable. The new iPhone will be sim tray free in Europe from September, so they're going to be forced to adopt it. Good.
> Oh and if you can be bothered, look at Whistleout on YouTube. They know the US >cellphone market,
LOL. You just keep on, don't you? The US is my home market. I work for one of the major carriers.
> and not all US carriers offer eSIM.
*Yes*. *They*. *Do*. I'm really tired of telling you this, yet you continue to say otherwise. You are yet to name me a *single* US carrier that doesn't support eSIM.
> Even if all US carriers did offer eSIM, what good is that to you in the UK ?!
It's of no use. That's entirely my point.
> Maybe you should move to the USA
I did. I'm an American.
