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Michael_T's avatar
Michael_T
SMARTY Teamster
22-01-2023
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Auto Renew experience

I am interested to know what other’s experience of the seamless auto renew process?

I’ve been with SMARTY around 4 months, and every month, on the anniversary date,  my account goes into pause at midnight.  It renews, but I am unclear whether it has or not because both the app and website do not update?  I have to wait several hours before I receive an email confirming my card payment has been taken, and only then the website and app show I’m live again.  In the app I have to logout and log back in again to update it, as it still shows in pause otherwise?

  • Jack0x's avatar
    Jack0x
    22-01-2023

    The way auto renewals work is payment should be accepted automatically. 

    However, if for any reason there's a payment failure (not enough funds for e.g). You will yes have a app saying service is paused but you won't be cut off until 12 hours after payment failure. This is a grace period so you've got time to make the payment.

    Once the grace period is up, you won't be able to send or receive calls, texts or use any mobile data. 

28 Replies

  • WelshPaul's avatar
    WelshPaul
    SMARTY Centurion
    22-01-2023

    Interesting topic...

    I wasn't aware that there maybe a short period of time where my service would not work until SMARTY's backend system processes my renewal payment. This really shouldn't happen, it should be seamless. What if i'm in the middle of an emergency and encounter this issue? Hardly reassuring! I'm going to test this out on my next renewal and see if I encounter an issue making calls.

    • JJP2's avatar
      JJP2
      SMARTY Pro-coach
      03-09-2023

      See my reply to Jack0x re my experience 

  • Jack0x's avatar
    Jack0x
    SMARTY Commentator
    22-01-2023

    Hi Michael.

    Card payments are taken anytime up to 3am in my experience, once a card payment has been approved your service will continue as it should. You'll be cut off for a brief time, which is normal.

    This was through my experience.

    NOTE: I am a SMARTY customer, not an employee.

    • Michael_T's avatar
      Michael_T
      SMARTY Teamster
      22-01-2023

      Thanks for your response Jack.  It is interesting to hear you have the same experience.

      I would be interested to hear other examples here, because it doesn’t feel seamless, in that service goes off until payment is taken by the systems?  I’ve not been up late enough to test whether it still works or not.

      I have parents who are aging and need to feel my service is not going to go off on my anniversary date, until the financial systems behind this process kick in!

      I’d be interested  to hear the official answer from SMARTY on how this works, as there isn’t anything in the Q&A that explains this?

      • Jack0x's avatar
        Jack0x
        SMARTY Commentator
        22-01-2023

        The way auto renewals work is payment should be accepted automatically. 

        However, if for any reason there's a payment failure (not enough funds for e.g). You will yes have a app saying service is paused but you won't be cut off until 12 hours after payment failure. This is a grace period so you've got time to make the payment.

        Once the grace period is up, you won't be able to send or receive calls, texts or use any mobile data. 

  • DavidRo_1305343's avatar
    DavidRo_1305343
    SMARTY Rookie
    23-01-2023

    Luxury!

    Yesterday I clicked on renew and was taken through payment processing and then it said it had an error.  Retry doesn't and cancel just stops retrying (which is not what I want!).

    My bank says it set 1p aside (standard is it live test) and then it does no more.  Bot can't help and online customer services were/are useless. 

    Added another card.  Same thing.

     

    • Jack0x's avatar
      Jack0x
      SMARTY Commentator
      23-01-2023

      Try again in a day or so, or when the grace period is up. 

      Or just keep trying to contact support until you get the issue resolved. 

  • jassingh's avatar
    jassingh
    SMARTY Motivator
    04-09-2023

    My 2 cents. Not had any issues with the renewal stage or any disconnections - I thought something would happen on my last renewal which was on a Saturday and so I thought that there might be a chance that the payment would not be taken until the Monday, so 2 days of no service, but that didn't happen. The payment did go through, so the banks will 'reserve' this amount to be collected. 

    Just have to make sure that funds in the account are sufficient. Also, the time it takes to 'clear' the transaction vs when it was requested from Smarty can be different - but you shouldn't be cut off anyways unless Smarty has some difficulty in trying to get the money and they keep retrying.

    Not too sure about manual payments and top-ups, however!

    • MSF's avatar
      MSF
      SMARTY Guru
      04-09-2023

      jassingh  Totally agree with you. I have had auto-renew set up since I started with Smarty at least 200years ago (OK, perhaps I am exaggerating a little!) and it has always worked smoothly for my account and for my wife's account too.

      I link my payment via PayPal, which in turn goes to a credit card that I keep mostly for that use.

      My reasoning is that it keeps the transactions further away from my real bank account; in case of problems I could shut down that credit card with its very small credit limit quickly and still have access to funds.

      • jassingh's avatar
        jassingh
        SMARTY Motivator
        04-09-2023

        Yeah totally MSF ‌👍‌ good point you mentioned its also more peace of mind especially if you have that pesky subscription that you need to nuke quickly (and they're playing difficult) and if they don't budge you can set up the payments different or use 'virtual cards' .. no real payment info shared so no harm done.

        I was trying to find a way to use Google Pay for payments but I couldn't find more info about how to get it setup or which devices are 'compatible' as the article suggested. 🤔

  • TimHigh_2676498's avatar
    TimHigh_2676498
    SMARTY Pioneer
    13-05-2024

    Its absolutely shocking. No sooner did I join - albeit with a low data tariff I realised it was used and would not renew for 20 days. I cannot make it renew straight away (like Giff Gaff). I have paid £20 for a data addon, did not see it activate, paid another £20 and this has still not activated, with the first one disappearing.

    So I have paid nearly £50 as a new customer and have no working service.

    The Support is simply a load of bots which give links, and if you ask for an actually human, all you do is get spammed on asking if they have resolved the situation ? NO they have not as they have asked no questions and done absolutely nothing about it.

    This is so far a rip off.

    Even posting on the community seems to see the post disappear into a black hole, with it being unsearchable to see if there are answers. The site says I have made one post - however a simple page showing all a users own posts appears to be lacking, so its useless.

    In short its a disappointing rip off. SMARTY should look at GiffGaff for good user experience, and not this sham of a money maker that SMARTY is.

    The extra 1Mb download for my location is not work the hassle.

    SMARTY - wise up and get some actual developers.

    I am leaving and demanding refunds from my credit company.

    • JJP2RidesAgain's avatar
      JJP2RidesAgain
      SMARTY Centurion
      13-05-2024

      Read my reply on the other thread that you started re add ons etc 

      A lot of problems we see on this forum are quite clearly user error ! 

      Some of the posts here beggar belief quite frankly, some people would be better off with two cans and a piece of string ! 

      Using Smarty isn’t shocking at all, unless you are clueless and hard of thinking with no clue what you are doing !

    • MSF's avatar
      MSF
      SMARTY Guru
      13-05-2024

      TimHigh_2676498  Don't get me wrong - I understand that these things cane frustrating.

      Instead of venting to forum members, would you not be better off following through the web chat and ,if that does not sort it, raise a complaint with Smarty.

      Accusing them being a rip-off doesn't really help anyone. As my dear old Dad used to say - you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

      GiffGaff? - Good customer service? - Crikey, I wonder where that happened? - certainly not when I was with them!

      I'm sure it can be sorted.

  • jonatha_1367227's avatar
    jonatha_1367227
    SMARTY Enquirer
    10-07-2024

    Slightly different topic.

    I use the unlimited data service for home broadband (card in a router). The auto-renewal works perfectly from the financial side (except when the credit card passes its sell-by date of course). But I find that quality of service (rate and drop-outs) degrades for a few days before each renewal. Does anyone else have this experience and are there any ways to fix it?

    Thanks for any advice (or even confirmation of this phenomenon).

    JV

  • AllyKnig_829665's avatar
    AllyKnig_829665
    SMARTY Maverick
    11-07-2024

    Yes I have to pay manually every month this has went on since I joined been on chat every time still not sorted 

    I have a group account the other number auto renews but mine doesn't it's a joke they take money for other account from same card as mine 

    • MSF's avatar
      MSF
      SMARTY Guru
      11-07-2024

      AllyKnig_829665  Never had any problem with a Group account since joining a long time ago.