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- LordvegaSMARTY Maverick12-08-2025
Any update on this? It makes joining the network very easy too, no waiting needed
- YulianKSMARTY Community Manager23-06-2025Status changed:InvestigatingtoAccepted
- JohnHolg_197178SMARTY Pioneer20-06-2025
Been with Smarty for about 6 years using SIM for data in a cellular iPad. Now had to upgrade to a new cellular iPad which only takes eSIMs. So farewell Smarty. Sorry I recommended you to friends now using Smarty similarly.
- MSFSMARTY Guru30-05-2025
JP_15928 They are definitely not a gimmick if you need data at a reasonable price while roaming outside the EU.
I have used couple of different brands and found them exceptionally good.
I do think that they might prove to be cost neutral to companies - Three certainly offers both - but turning to sim exclusively would exclude a huge number of customers.
Your comment about letting ideas fade into obscurity is interesting. There were a lot of gripes about short code texts for a very long time and it looked like smarty were not going to move on that - but they did eventually.
Also, this idea has gone to 'investigating' status.
- MSFSMARTY Guru30-05-2025
JP_15928 They are definitely not a gimmick if you need data at a reasonable price while roaming outside the EU.
I have used couple of different brands and found them exceptionally good.
I do think that they might prove to be cost neutral to companies - Three certainly offers both - but turning to sim exclusively would exclude a huge number of customers.
Your comment about letting ideas fade into obscurity is interesting. There were a lot of gripes about short code texts for a very long time and it looked like smarty were not going to move on that - but they did eventually.
- give-us-eSIMSMARTY Commentator27-05-2025
Name me a *single * device that doesn’t support eSIM. I’ll wait…
The point about Smarty being a no frills network as a justification to not support eSIM is a total idiotic nonsense given a tonne of similar budget carrier brands support it.
- JP_15928SMARTY Maverick25-05-2025
eSims at the moment are more of a gimmick, with mostly the higher-end devices supporting them. Smarty, as a relative budget cell provider is definitely not interested in adding gimmicks to the network, it would probably end up raising the prices of the existing plans to phase this in when there strictly isn't a need for them. I suspect they are already on extremely thin profit margins considering the pricing of other providers.
You have to pick your battles in business, you're either an all-thrills provider, or focus on being the cheapest. Smarty is most likely the latter. I just wish the team was more transparent in regards to this instead of letting these suggestions quietly fade into obscurity, at this point I'm not even sure what is the point of this section.
Definitely not complaining however, I am getting data speeds that rival the biggest UK networks at a fraction of the price, for that I'll take a barebones network anyday,
- LuckyRabbitSMARTY Pioneer04-04-2025
MSFFor some it's a Personal preference which isn't a great reason but definitely one that people care about.
Apart from that though one I can think of is better security. If your device is stolen a physical sim can be removed and stop the device from being tracked or found an esim is integrated into the device so cannot be removed.
Another reason is physical Sims can degrade or become damaged over time any issues regarding this is negated by ESims.
Both of these particularly the second one are niche but are reasons people would prefer Esim technology to physical Sims, there's also the possibility that down the line apple and other manufacturers will do awa with the Sim slot like they did with the headphone jack, apples already done this in America so not impossible for this to spread.
Personally I'd love for them to have ESims but it's not a dealbreaker for me with Smarty. It's not really a need but definitely a nice to have at least in my case.
- MSFSMARTY Guru04-04-2025
LuckyRabbit But what is the great advantage to an Esim ? Nobody seems to have addressed this here.
As I mentioned earlier, it is great for quickly adding a sim for travel - no need to go to a shop or wait for sim to be sent if you need to travel suddenly. Other than that, what else?