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  • Chalkychap's avatar
    Chalkychap
    SMARTY Trendsetter
    27-07-2023

    Perhaps 'may disappear' is the operative phrase here... it's difficult to see the necessary investment in eSIM support happening in the UK before likely availability of iPhone 15 devices. 

    Apple have around 50% of the UK smartphone market, so going eSIM only could hurt iPhone 15 sales in the UK.

    • JJP2's avatar
      JJP2
      SMARTY Pro-coach
      27-07-2023

      True. 

      I know there is a cost to networks on their back end systems etc, but I can’t think it much, as eSIM is certainly very common in the USA and Europe. 

      Even “Spusu” , the Austrian network who recently entered the UK mobile market as an MVNO on EE, allow offer eSIM 30 day ‘contracts’

      If not iPhone 15, maybe iPhone 16. Time will tell of course. 

  • MSF's avatar
    MSF
    SMARTY Guru
    30-07-2023

    JJP2  Perhaps interesting that Apple sell the iPhone14 as esim only in the US but decided to keep it traditional for everywhere else. Will they be brave enough to make the iPhone15 sim only in Europe - maybe risky as you suggest.

    • JJP2's avatar
      JJP2
      SMARTY Pro-coach
      30-07-2023

      Could well be risky. 

      On my recent trip to the US, I did notice that whilst not all carriers support eSIM, most do, and also, visual voicemail for iPhone comes as standard  on all networks. 

      Maybe Apple are trying to effectively force European networks to adopt eSIM, and possibly visual voicemail ? 

      Maybe Apple should concentrate on price disparities before anything else, an email from “Best Buy” yesterday showcased the Apple Watch ultra - Normal price $779 around £620, yet its £879 here ! It’s the same with iPhones, iPads etc

      • MSF's avatar
        MSF
        SMARTY Guru
        31-07-2023

        JJP2  I totally agree about pricing! Unfortunately, I really find their products top notch and reliable, but it grieves me mightily to pay their UK prices.

        At least **bleep** Turpin had the decency to hide behind a mask when he took your money!!⚔️☠️