Interesting if this turns out to be true…Would force all networks to adopt eSIM.I do wonder if conversely, it would drive up sales of Android phones, with some people (even networks ?) reluctant to use / trust eSIM. https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/03/27/sim-card-trays-may-disappear-from-iphone-15-in-europe

Perhaps 'may disappear' is the operative phrase here... it's difficult to see the necessary investment in eSIM support happening in the UK before likely availability of iPhone 15 devices. Apple have around 50% of the UK smartphone market, so going eSIM only could hurt iPhone 15 sales in the UK.

JJP2 I totally agree about pricing! Unfortunately, I really find their products top notch and reliable, but it grieves me mightily to pay their UK prices.At least **bleep** Turpin had the decency to hide behind a mask when he took your money!!⚔️☠️

JJP2 Many moons ago (when I was young and innocent....maybe!) I purchased a MacAir from a US source. I couldn't believe the price differential (Pound was stronger then!). The sales assistant looked at me strangely when I asked if it was the same spec as a UK model - he showed me the web page for comparison. The only issue was the plug on the charger, but a couple of quid bought me an adaptor.It just shows the power and popularity of the product that we mugs/customers will pay for the products. Shame about the iPhone 14 only accepting sim otherwise I would've considered asking a friend to bring one.

True. I know there is a cost to networks on their back end systems etc, but I can’t think it much, as eSIM is certainly very common in the USA and Europe. Even “Spusu” , the Austrian network who recently entered the UK mobile market as an MVNO on EE, allow offer eSIM 30 day ‘contracts’If not iPhone 15, maybe iPhone 16. Time will tell of course.

JJP2 Perhaps interesting that Apple sell the iPhone14 as esim only in the US but decided to keep it traditional for everywhere else. Will they be brave enough to make the iPhone15 sim only in Europe - maybe risky as you suggest.

iPhone 15 series - eSIM only in Europe ?

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MSF
SMARTY Guru
30-07-2023
JJP2 Perhaps interesting that Apple sell the iPhone14 as esim only in the US but decided to keep it traditional for everywhere else. Will they be brave enough to make the iPhone15 sim only in Europe - maybe risky as you suggest.
- JJP2
  SMARTY Pro-coach
  30-07-2023
  Could well be risky.
  On my recent trip to the US, I did notice that whilst not all carriers support eSIM, most do, and also, visual voicemail for iPhone comes as standard on all networks.
  
  Maybe Apple are trying to effectively force European networks to adopt eSIM, and possibly visual voicemail ?
  
  Maybe Apple should concentrate on price disparities before anything else, an email from “Best Buy” yesterday showcased the Apple Watch ultra - Normal price $779 around £620, yet its £879 here ! It’s the same with iPhones, iPads etc
  - MSF
    SMARTY Guru
    31-07-2023
    JJP2 I totally agree about pricing! Unfortunately, I really find their products top notch and reliable, but it grieves me mightily to pay their UK prices.
    At least **bleep** Turpin had the decency to hide behind a mask when he took your money!!⚔️☠️
Chalkychap
SMARTY Trendsetter
27-07-2023
Perhaps 'may disappear' is the operative phrase here... it's difficult to see the necessary investment in eSIM support happening in the UK before likely availability of iPhone 15 devices.
Apple have around 50% of the UK smartphone market, so going eSIM only could hurt iPhone 15 sales in the UK.
- JJP2
  SMARTY Pro-coach
  27-07-2023
  True.
  
  I know there is a cost to networks on their back end systems etc, but I can’t think it much, as eSIM is certainly very common in the USA and Europe.
  
  Even “Spusu” , the Austrian network who recently entered the UK mobile market as an MVNO on EE, allow offer eSIM 30 day ‘contracts’
  If not iPhone 15, maybe iPhone 16. Time will tell of course.

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