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FredD
SMARTY Pioneer
09-10-2023

Appalling 4G signal strength. Disappointing!

4 reasons why I moved from Vodafone to Smarty: Price (very competitive for unlimited calls/texts + 40GB of data/month); SIM-only contract terms (1-month rolling contract; in EU, no roaming charges and 12GB/month of data without charge); Signal strength on Three's network; Customer service.

3 reasons have been fulfilled. But, an essential one - signal strength, is a complete failure. Getting no or 1 bar of signal isn't acceptable; people end up calling me on WhatsApp to ask if I've changed phone number or if my phone is broken. Since nothing has changed on my end since my transfer to Smarty, I can only conclude that Three's 4G network isn't as good as advertised and reviewed, and/or Three gives substandard signal to its Virtual Private Operators.

What a pity, because all started well with Smarty, particularly an excellent price, good and flexible contact terms, and commendable customer service. However, at the end of the day, the key use of phones is for calling and receiving calls; if this doesn't work, then all other factors are worthless, and I can't afford to lose business calls.

In conclusion, I'm happy to pay a few £s more if Smarty solve their problem of signal, or I'm out at the end of the month.

11 Replies

  • jassingh's avatar
    jassingh
    SMARTY Motivator
    09-10-2023

    Did you test drive a Three SIM card prior to purchasing a 30-day Smarty plan so that you could evaluate the coverage and performance to see if it met your needs? Sometimes such issues can be down to temporary work on a local mast or congestion at certain times of the day - you can use the Three coverage checker/ network status with your postcode...that might tell you if there are any issues currently.

    Bear in mind, no network can guarantee 100% coverage since the signal is affected by many different things (buildings, weather, terrain, distance from mast etc) .. or I would recommend starting a webchat to see if Smarty can troubleshoot for you. I don't think that there could be a difference in the signal itself since Three owns Smarty but it is known that a network that is strong in one area, may not be so good in another. That is an inherent problem with mobile networks in general.

    The good thing is you're not tied to a long contract incase the coverage is not meeting your needs. 

  • JJP2's avatar
    JJP2
    SMARTY Pro-coach
    09-10-2023

    You didn’t “buy blind” did you ? 

    Since I have been with Smarty in June, I have quite frankly been amazed at the number of people who obtain a Smarty SIM purely on price, without checking the coverage of Three, Smarty’s parent network, where they live, work and socialise. 

    You absolutely have to check the coverage on whatever network you plan to use before parting with your hard earned cash. Where I live for example, O2 is extremely poor, so I won’t use O2 or any MVNO’s that use O2, such as Tesco Mobile.

    Before I switched to Smarty, it was imperative that I check the coverage of Three where I mostly use my phone, to ensure that it gave me the coverage I require. 

  • AngelVi_2604092's avatar
    AngelVi_2604092
    SMARTY Pioneer
    02-11-2024

    I was on Three for years before switching to Smarty less than 6 months ago. The network performance is not the same as being on Three. I'm finding myself with no signal at all in areas like town centres, where I've never had problems before. Now looking at other providers and thankful that I'm not tied to a contract.

    • SmartyTrousers's avatar
      SmartyTrousers
      SMARTY Centurion
      02-11-2024

      Smarty's coverage and performance is the same as Three's. What has happened in the last six months is that Three have switched off most of their 3G coverage across the country. This has improved average data speeds, but has slightly reduced coverage, at least in the short term. You will see this whether you're on Three, Smarty or another Three MVNO.

      • MSF's avatar
        MSF
        SMARTY Guru
        02-11-2024

        SmartyTrousers While theoretically the service and coverage should be the same, I can't help wondering if Three customers are at the head of the queue when it comes to service level.

        To be fair, they pay more and should rightly expect first call on any signal in the locality, thereby leaving Smarty customers with what is still available.

        Now, I'm no expert on mobile telecoms but I feel sure that the clever electronics can sort out the customers and prioritise those from the owner's main network. This is something that often seems to be reported when people are EU Roaming.

        I must say the if I were a customer of Three directly I would be pretty peeved if I thought that those paying less were getting first dibs on the signal in an area.

  • HowardL_2816013's avatar
    HowardL_2816013
    SMARTY Pioneer
    08-07-2024

    I got a Smarty SIM and put it in my Samsung A34 5G before activating it. My existing SIM was an ID Mobile one which is also on Three. The ID signal was very poor but the Smarty one was much stronger. I chose to activate the Smarty SIM and transfer my number. Immediately on doing this, the Smarty signal has dropped to be the same as the ID one. Why? Have I been lured and then robbed?

    • MSF's avatar
      MSF
      SMARTY Guru
      09-07-2024

      HowardL_2816013 I really do hope you are not suggesting that Smarty have a clever way of upping the signal strength just the first time a sim is inserted in a phone and then deliberately dropping it once you activate the sim.

      What would even be the point? How long do you think that a company could get away with that - even if it is possible? How come they have a large number of satisfied customers who were apparently not 'lured and then robbed'? FYI, robbery is a criminal offence and so best to think through carefully.

  • CraigWe_2972916's avatar
    CraigWe_2972916
    SMARTY Pioneer
    04-12-2024

    Same here. I'm sure somewhere like Manchester Airport should be a dead zone, but it was. I've had appalling reception in so many areas and have never in all my years of using mobiles with different providers had such consistently poor reception. I sadly will need to move my whole family somewhere else.